Recently my maternal aunts, cousins and I had a strong DNA match at 23andme to a woman whose name was not familiar to me, Sharon, born in South Africa. This was exciting because I had thought that I had no family left there. I knew that my Jewish great grandmother Charlotte Langermann Thannhauser had had three brothers who went off to South Africa to make their fortunes. None of whom were thought to have any living descendants.
One of the brothers, Max Langermann, of Johannesburg and London, did become very rich but had no children of his own. Another, Jakob, also of Johannesburg, died in his 30s in 1898, unmarried, and his will names his five living siblings at that time as his heirs, each of whom received 105 pounds (about $20K today). The third brother, (Ernst) Isador, died in his early 40s, on board ship returning from India to his home in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia (now Harere, Zimbabwe). His son Frederick was adopted by Max. My mother had told me that Fred was Jakob’s son but since Jakob died a few years before Frederick’s birth, that could not be. Documents I found seemed to indicate that Fred was Isador’s son but Frederick had no children of his own, So who could this new relative be descended from?
Since Sharon was listed as 28% Jewish and her mother has no Jewish DNA, she deduced that her father’s mother, whose name she did not know, had to have been Jewish. I sent her my Langermann family tree. Sharon consulted with her mother and sent me this:
“Max was my great grandfather as I have a silver cigarette case from him, says Max Langermann Esq, 42 Holbein Viaduct, E.C. My Dad passed when I was 18 and his Mom’s name is not mentioned on the Birth certificate. My Mom is visiting from South Africa and can’t remember my Grandmothers name but hopefully it will come to her. I will take a look at the family tree. “
To which I responded that Max had no children and he was very generous with all his relatives, many of us have inscribed silver items from him. I gave her this URL for my article about getting documents from the South African archives so she could find out more.
https://blog.kittycooper.com/2015/04/south-african-records-online-and-facebook-groups/
A few weeks later she had her grandmother’s name – Augusta “Gussie” Langermann – and birth place from her death certificate. This made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. My great great grandmother was Auguste Guggenheimer Langermann. Gussie must have been named for her! Since Gussie was born in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia, she must have been Isador’s daughter. Why did we not know about her? I had heard so many stories about Max and the others.
Here is what Sharon told me:
“As far as my Mom and I can piece together Augusta is the daughter of Isadore and Edith. My mom thinks she was born in Rhodesia and that Isadore and Edith owned the Langham Hotel. Originally my Mom thought her maiden name was Langham but then looked at the cigarette holder and it said Langermann. My Mom thought that it had belonged to an uncle which makes sense.
Augusta as far as we know became estranged from her family when she married a Catholic and converted. They had two children. I’m not sure what happened to him [Ed note: he died] but she married again to my biological grandfather and they had one child, my Dad. Augusta was a qualified theater sister and ran the operating theater at the local hospital in a town called Messina where they lived. Messina is the border town between South Africa and Zimbabwe.”
This works with the dates and the amount of DNA. So Sharon is my 3rd cousin via (Ernst) Isadore Langermann. Gussie would have been 11 when her father died and her brother Fred even younger. So why was Gussie not adopted by Max? What happened to her mother Edith? Did she remarry? Perhaps Max only adopted Fred much later, after Fred’s mother died, by which time his sister had left the nest.
With the help of the documents Sharon received from the archives, she was able to find the surnames of Gussie’s first husband and of her daughter’s husband. That lead her to track down her cousins via FaceBook and she put me in touch with them. One of them is helping me reconstruct this family’s history and work on those mysteries. Another of them sent me his family tree with names and dates.
One thing I love about family history is that it lets me see history through the eyes of my own family. Here is what one of Sharon’s half first cousins and my 3rd cousin, wrote to me:
“My siblings were born in Messina. After about 1960 we were transferred to Southern Rhodesia with the company MTD (Messina Transvaal Development) – a copper mine – to the copper mine In Southern Rhodesia called Alaska.
I was born in Southern Rhodesia (still under British Rule). My parents gave up their British Citizenship when UDI took place on 11th November 1965. We had a fantastic childhood and then the Bush War started – this war affected so many lives and the world couldn’t see it. My dad and brothers both served and my sister was a nurse and I helped wherever, as I was still at school.
We lost a lot of friends but as a country we were united. When independence took place in 1980 – there were plenty of people who emigrated all over the world. I left Zimbabwe in 1985 to start a new life in South Africa and have been here ever since. Again things were going well even when Mandela was President as he was well loved by both black and white, but we live with corruption now and crime which is uncontrollable and violent. I love Africa and the wildlife and at any opportunity I get, I go to the Kruger National Park. “
There seem to be many Langermann descendants in the medical profession like my grandfather, his first cousin Gussie, one of my first cousins, a niece of mine, an Israeli 3rd cousin and her grandmother, as well as one of my South African 3rd cousins.
Also we all share a 5th cousin descended from the Steinhardts of Floss who lived in Kenya for many years and likes to return to go on safari. Plus my son spent part of his honeymoon visiting an animal park in Zimbabwe. So wildlife may be another shared interest. Here are some pictures from cousin Ralph:
N.B. Many of the names in this story are linked to their profiles at GENI where there are more documents and stories
Well, this is one of the best DNA connection stories that I have read in a long time. How wonderful for all of you! Thanks so much for sharing it, Kitty!
Thanks Darlene, I have been very excited and delighted by this find!
I have some great stories under DNA adoption success stories. http://blog.kittycooper.com/tag/adoption-success-stories/ I think my favorite is DNA makes a Merry Christmas – https://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/12/dna-makes-a-merry-christmas/
Hi Kitty, I’ve been completely amazing seeing all the work you’ve done on this topic and how much I’ve learned reading your blog. Thank you!
My dad recently did a ancestry.com test and he ended up matching about 200 people from Portugal. Dad’s family is mostly from Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka was a Portuguese colony in the 16 to mid 1700s. Many of them are from a specific region.
1) The cM level of these matches go from 7- 26cM on one segment, does that mean that our common ancestor was from 300+ years ago? I thought ancestry.com went back only about 230 years. Or can assume that the original ancestor was a man who passed off his Y chromosome? Granted a lot of dad’s matches are female.
2) Considering how long ago it was, any thoughts on how to research this? Thanks!
Dee –
See if you can get those cousins to upload to GEDmatch where you can compare them all to each other and your Dad so you can see if that is all the same segment or not.
Individual segments can last for many hundreds of years and predictions further out than 3rd cousins are just not reliable because of the randomness of DNA recombination.
Read the following post for an idea of how to proceed with this
https://blog.kittycooper.com/2015/02/triangulation-proving-a-common-ancestor/
Also you might test your father’s Y chromosome for more information and further back matches see https://blog.kittycooper.com/2019/06/why-y/
Hi Kitty,
My name is Kim Bock. I am 58 and from South Africa. My adopted maiden name is Conradie.
I was born in Durban on 5 July 1965 to my biological parents’ Herman Wolfaard and Beverley (or Beverly) Ann (or Anne) Langerman. I only recently found out that I was adopted. I was adopted by my biological father’s half brother, Pieter G Conradie. I never knew I was adopted and everyone that could tell me anything have passed away. As you can see I knew my biological father (though I thought he was my uncle), but I know absolutely nothing (other than her names, that they met and I was born in Durban and that she was born in 1945 and was therefore 20 in 1965 when I was born. I don’t know what became of her, how I landed up as a 6 month old baby with my biological father or why she gave me up. I have a very old black and white ID photo of her which I got together with her names and birthdate from a Policeman (in the SA Hawks) who was a friend of a friend and did some digging. He says that after my birth there are no records of her (no marriage, no bank, no death, no ID, no passport, no immigration, nothing). At that stage South Africa was still deep in Apartheid but had strong ties with Israel. It was this Hawk’s assumption that she probably worked for the Mossad. I don’t know if that’s true or even possible for such a young woman. As I said, I know absolutely nothing about her. She’s a mystery Case, while my biological dad was an open book. His Mother’s surname was Roothman.
I don’t even know if she was Jewish but why would the Mossad be the first thing he mentioned and I have noted that most Langermanns, particularly English ones are Jewish. As I said I have that photo and her names and birthdate. I have a lot of traits (like writing, ability to learn languages very fast, love history, introverted, and academic oriented, which is not at all traits of my biological father’s family, so I can only assume that it comes from her side (Langerman (or Langermann)). I would love to know more about the Langermans, where they’re originally from and what kind of heritage they have.
Greetings from South Africa
Hi Kim,
My Langerman family no longer has anyone with that surname in SA but I will respond to you privately. Have you done DNA testing with MyHeritage or other service?