So many of these one segment DNA matches that I find with other testers are too far back to find the common ancestors. However those of us with Norwegian ancestry often have very deep trees thanks to the good records and the many farm books for each locality. So when you find a fellow genealogist with Norwegian roots who matches your DNA you get quite hopeful, and sure enough …
I had four matches, the colored lines in the picture below, for my Norwegian descended Dad on chromosome 16. However they span the centromere which is from 35335801 to 38335801, so initially these segments did not seem that promising.
Luckily the most recent match had an extensive tree of which only a small piece was Norwegian. So perhaps it would be easier to find our common ancestor with less tree to look through. Note that using a tool to compare Norwegian GEDcoms does not usually work so well because of differences in naming conventions (patronymic, farm name, Norwegian characters, etc)
Here are the details of these segment overlaps from my master spreadsheet for Dad:
Nancy has a tree at ancestry as do I. So our conversation went like this:
I sent my initial contact message which includes my ancestry tree information as well as links to this blog and my family history site
Nancy sent me her ancestry tree information but apologized for it not having all her data.
When I get a chance, I’ll check out your family trees and see if I recognize any names or places. My ancestors mostly settled in Wisconsin, Iowa, and most recently South Dakota. I’d love to try and figure out how we are related.
I replied that I needed an invite to her family tree. She sent one. I complained that too many dead ancestors were set as private. Then this fabulous news!
I found a set of common ancestors! My 6th gr-grandparents are Halvor Haslerud and Birgit Glaim through their son Knut. That line descends to me through Lewis Albert Larson[…]
I think I’ve found and fixed all the Ancestry people who were “private.”
Since these folk are my fifth great grandparents we are 6th cousins once removed! Now, all excited I contacted the other three people, all from the Giants of the Earth Heritage Center and one of them, Aaron, wrote back to me:
Thank you for your interest. With your information I found our common ancestor , In Flesburg Numedal bygde bok [ page 584] Nord Vangestad Gunnar Tollovsen 1604- 74 wife Ulvhild Olsdt. [Gjellerud sons Hellic Gunnersen b. 1646 [your line] & Ola Gunnersen 1654-1701 [our line]
P.S. We are also related to Sigurd Vinger who wrote Flesberg Bygde bok I have contact with him
Amazing that DNA could last this long. Aaron’s common ancestors with me are the great-grandparents of Nancy’s common ancestors. He shares only a little less DNA with us than Nancy.
Then a second even more fun communication
There are some interesting stories in Bygde bok about Gunnar Tollovsen & family. It says he was a very rich man and gave each of his sons a farm. Hellik got Vengestad and it says he did very well. On this farm was a big oak tree were people believed under it lived a royal family of Trolls. So the people living on Farm set out drink and food for these trolls by the tree and by so doing the Farm would have good luck. Once Hellik hired a fellow who was poor to cut the tree down but the first chop he made the ax split from one end to the other & flew back and hit him in the head, then he heard these voices say if he would spare this tree, they would bring him much good luck .[its written as a poem] The oak tree still stands today. I could scan some of these pages if you would like.
Aaron has now sent along some of those pages so any family members interested to see them, let me know.
So now you see what I mean by a deep triangulation. These two people are my 6th and 9th cousins. Because we found the first relationship, it narrowed down the search for the other and proved that it was the right line.